Busta causes stir with Muslims
Posted on 04 December 2008 by Shuhel Miah
The remix of Busta Rhymes’ song Arab Money has caused a bit of a commotion among British and U.S. Muslims. The song, which features some of the biggest names in Hip Hop - including P Diddy, Lil Wayne and Akon, and produced by hip hop powerhouse Swiss Beats - features vocals which consist of lines off Surah Fateha, from the Holy Quran. To cause further anguish, the song is a very typical hip hop club anthem, with the rappers openly boasting about their girls, gambling, drinking and money. Blogs, forums, and social networks have been fervouring with the spread of the track, with many Muslims calling the song racist, disrespectful and offensive.
Further to using the line “Bismillahi r-rahmani r-rahim. Al hamdu lillahi rabbi l-’ālamin” (translated to: “in the name of Allah, most gracious most merciful. All Praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds”) as the chorus, the song contains lyrics such as “dropping bombs like the Taleban“, “sitting in casinos while I’m gambling with Arafat“, “while I make you bow down and make Salaat like a Muslim“, “all the girls love me, yeah pop some bubbly“.
It seems that many Muslims are angry because the verses in the Quran are very sacred, and saying such things within the same breath comes across as nothing short of inflammatory.
The casualties so far have been award winning DJ, DJ Steve Sutherland, who was temporarily suspended after Galaxy FM received a string of complaints from it’s listeners after he played the song live on his radio programme on Saturday night. The radio station has since released a formal apology, both live on air and on it’s website, acknowledging that the song is offensive to Muslims, and that a “full internal investigation” is taking place.
No other major UK radio station has played the song, and from the reaction received to Galaxy FM, it would be very surprising if they did. Busta Rhymes nor his record label, Universal Motown, have yet made any official comments. One thing it is worth noting is that Busta Rhymes’ new album launch is immanent. A carefully planned PR stunt for a failing artist (he recently got dropped from Interscope records)? Or just an oversight by the producers, rappers, managers, the people at marketing, and the many chains of command the song passed through before it was released out into the public domain?
Have you heard the song? (If not, you can listen to it here) Do you find it offensive? Share your comments and views below.
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December 4th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Open Letter to Busta Rhymes, T-Pain, Akon and Swissbeatz
December 4th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Just heard the song and am in utter shock! How on earth did they manage to put out something like this? and where did they throw their ethics when they decided to use words from the Holy Quran all over their song?!?
December 4th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
get ya facts right bruv, busta is a muslim. yeah it might have been in poor taste, but obviously it wasnt meant to offend muslims, he openly takes about being a muslim!!
as for no official statement, again wrong this is one lazy arse article, busta released his didnt mean to offend statement a few days ago. writing crap like this just makes ppl hate us muslim more, like those morons who burn flags everytime someone dare critize a muslim and the bigger morons who sue sainsburys because they made them stack crates of bear.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
>Tariq
Busta Rhymes spoke out against critics of his original ‘Arab Money’ back in October. He is yet to say anything in regards to the more offensive remix (the original didn’t have any quranic words in it!).
In regards to Busta Rhymes being a muslim, I was very much aware of them. Half the rappers on the track claim to be muslims. But it doesn’t change the argument, nor the body of the article (and no, ignorance isn’t an excuse on his behalf!).
Shuhel
December 4th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Tariq You really think Bustah Ryhmes a muslim? look at him!!!! I think hes an undercover Jew lol. Even in the remix of the song, he bigs up Steven Speilberg and he’s a Jew….. hmmm
This song should be banned!!! N I hope he rots for this song….
December 4th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I heard the song however not sure why busta rhymes got so much abuse for this song. Music is haram in islam yet muslim artists always use allah’s name in their songs. If Nusrat can do Allah ho allah ho then why complain about busta rhymes just cos his a hip hop artist. Isn’t all types of music haram in islam.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
@Sara:
So, what exactly is wrong with bigging up Steven Spielberg while being a Muslim? Is it wrong for a Muslim to give any praise whatsoever to a Jew?
@Everyone Else:
If Muslims wanna cling to the archaic “the Quran shouldn’t be recited to music” rule in protest of the remix, then I think they need to lighten up. What exactly is the difference between singing songs in praise of Allah and/or Mohammed (like Qawwalis do in the Sufi-Islam tradition) and just reciting words straight outta the Quran?
Yes, the song is about partying and having fun. So, you mean to tell me that devout Muslims who regularly recite the Bismillah + Surah Al-Fatiha do not party at all? Man, Arab-Muslim society must be super-chaste and saintly, then! (go Wahabbis!)
Such adherence to “Quranic tradition” sounds a lot like how old, “traditional” U.S. Christians used to condemn the “devilish” black churches for singing Biblical hymns with harmonizing choirs and dancing.
Lighten the hell up I found more reason to be offended by the caricatured “Arab-language” chorus (it actually was just jibberish) on the ORIGINAL version of Busta’s song that by this remix.
Mashallah, Busta! You’ll have crowds of thousands reciting words from the Quran… What a way for music to bring together the masses!
December 4th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
H.Bomb
yeh muslims party, some in halal ways some not. Doesnt mean any msulim has a right to pervert the sanctity of the Quran. Surely everyone will be judged by there actions infront of Allah.
Instead you can respond to the All mighty by saying, “lighten the hell up”.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
This song is better than the Quran so all is well. Also: don’t like it, don’t listen.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:00 am
H.Bomb
comparing this song to a qawwali is pure bollocks to be quite frank. A qawwali is a form of meditation to bring one into a trance where they feel closer to Allah and as far as I’m concearned and probably the majority of the muslims out there would agree this song does the total opposite!
How can you think referencing Islam and the surat to bombs, alcohol, gambling and girls is okay? and how is that bringing the masses together when it gives an impression of Islam that is the complete opposite?
you say devout muslims do party? what do you class as a devout muslim? by saying they party you have contradicted yourself as they wouldn’t be devout! Yes people do make mistakes we are not perfect but asked them whether they should be doing it or whether Islam allows it they would probably all say NO.
And even if there are loads of muslims that do party that doesn’t make it right! you should read the qu’ran and hadith sometime it will tell you how a muslim should lead his/her life.
AND MASHALLAH BUSTA? you make me laugh! your probably as much of a muslim that the cross-dressing busta and his crew are…. lol u probably think cross-dressing is okay too haha
and buy the way im neither a wahabbi nor arab just a proud muslim…
December 5th, 2008 at 12:02 am
There is no mention in the Quran of prohibiting its recitation to music. Such a rule was instead created by subsequent Mullahs particularly the excessively strict ones from Saudi, who have issued many other questionable edicts and followed blindly by followers for the sake of “tradition.” This sort of sheepish adherence has even led those same followers of condemning those WITHIN THEIR OWN FAITH (see: Sufi Islam) who don’t adhere strictly to such a bylaw against reciting Muslim phrases to music.
I repeat: Lighten up!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:05 am
@nhussain:
you say devout muslims do party? what do you class as a devout muslim? by saying they party you have contradicted yourself as they wouldnt be devout!
I guess it’s official, then… Anybody who parties is NOT a good Muslim!
Thank God Islam encompasses a wider spectrum of beliefs and values than your excessively strict bollocks!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:10 am
yes music was allowed in Islam but when its referenced to drugs, alcohol, gambling and girls it is prohibited!
Also you seem to be referencing how people in different cultures live their life, like i said before we are not perfect, you can’t judge islam by what people do, thats why there is the qu’ran and hadith. And you shouldn’t be the one to judge them in the first place, Allah will do that when the time comes.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:14 am
i never said their bad muslims….who am I to judge like i said God will do that… my point is if the majority of the people do something it doesn’t make it right…… if half the muslim population committed suicide then killing youself doesnt become permisable!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:15 am
@nhussain:
You said…
“you shouldnt be the one to judge them in the first place, Allah will do that when the time comes.”
—–
Yet, only 3 comments up, you judged that Muslims who happen to party “wouldn’t be devout.”
Nice job of practicing what you preach there, buddy. I know as you mentioned that “we are not perfect,” but is it too much to ask of you to follow a consistent line of thought?
December 5th, 2008 at 12:20 am
well what i class as devout is probably completely different to your definition, a devout muslim in my mind wouldn’t be out clubbing, getting pissed talkin about dropping bombs!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Lovely retort, Shuhel. Well done. Valid argument; besides the PR stunt, who would want to listen to such a track ?!!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:27 am
I doubt Busta will ever literally bomb anybody you do realize that “droppin bombs” can also mean “releasing hot music” in hip-hop slang, right? It’s a double-entendre, though I woulda probably chosen a more respectable group to attribute the metaphor to than the Taliban.
Still, though, making a song about “Arab Money” is a lot better than, say, “Arab Bombing,” eh?
December 5th, 2008 at 12:30 am
^ Non muslims, maybe? Or maybe less sensitive muslims. But no, the media is expected to bend over backwards not to offend them. It’s good to be American because this track is bangin.
Also: falling artist? His last album topped the charts, is certified gold, and sold 2.5 mill worldwide. It was his first album to top the charts; again: falling? He is one of the most well known and respected hip hop artists, be objective and stop trying to convince yourself that he’s desperate because the numbers don’t lie.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:35 am
@Jyeah:
I feel what you just posted, but I don’t think proclaiming (as you did several posts up) that “this song is better than the Quran” is gon help your case very much.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:37 am
lol true, well i guess its just the inclusion of the qu’ranic verses that i dont agree with, talkin about how sheikhs that are billionaires live their lives is perfectly fine cos iv seen many of them in clubs myself, but there is no need to include verses of the quran it can just only potray a bad image about islam, i dont give a flyin fuk about what they think about the sheikhs cos the ones iv met i think are ignorant clowns anyway whose lives just revolve around money, and they use religion wherever possible, acting as the forefront of islam just by the language they speak and the way they dress! anyway your entitled to your opinion and i respect it and im entitled to mine! anyway im out
December 5th, 2008 at 12:51 am
It seems like nowadays anyone who labels themselves as a Muslim or uses Islamic references gets a great amount of attention. This is obviously an attempt to bring any kind of publicity, negative or positive, for an artist who needs some more “dough”. Busta’s song IS offensive and disgusting.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:10 am
@Ruby:
“It seems like nowadays anyone who labels themselves as a Muslim or uses Islamic references gets a great amount of attention.”
Exactly… Cuz Cat Stevens is ALWAYS in the news nowadays!
December 5th, 2008 at 1:10 am
The closer a person is to Islam, the more offended he/she gets when it is attacked. So anybody, especially H.bomb who thinks this is overreacting, you need to change yourself, and fast.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:18 am
@ Hbomb, nothing is going to ‘help my case’. Nothing can stop a group’s victim complex, whether it be Muslims or any other. SOME people just love to play the victim. I suggest these individuals start picking their battles with more restraint, because when something comes up that truly is offensive, or incites violence, the world will be less responsive because of all this complaining about light-hearted club tracks.
And my previous remark was facetious, just like this song.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:20 am
“The closer a person is to Islam, the more offended he/she gets when it is attacked. So anybody, especially H.bomb who thinks this is overreacting, you need to change yourself, and fast.”
Yeah, just freak out and get furious. Don’t try to think rationally or anything, that would be stupid.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:49 am
My family is Muslim but I am not a devout Muslim, and I own two Busta Rhymes CDs. I used to enjoy Busta’s music but he really did fall off a long time ago, way before the garbage he puts out now. And yea he still sells but a lot of garbage sells so that doesn’t mean anything. The bottom line is that this song, whether or not it is offensive, is just plain horrible. First off the beat attempts to have a middle eastern sound by using a certain group of notes played with some synthesizer but it is just plain simple, annoying, and repetitive in a very bad way (the melody is only one bar long!!) To go along with that Busta doesn’t even flow with any innovation, intelligence or complexity (like he used to). What is really offensive is the hook which is some gibberish that is supposed to sound Arabic. At least have real Arabic words that mean something even halfway interesting!! would that have been that difficult to accomplish? What is disappointing to me is that he makes Arab people look bad by trying to incorporate them into his music somehow and then drops a dud, not bomb..
December 5th, 2008 at 2:56 am
i dont get what the big deal is? its just a song, lots of songs use words from other forms of writing(movies,poetry,etc). why the big deal?
December 5th, 2008 at 3:29 am
@US of A:
“The closer a person is to Islam, the more offended he/she gets when it is attacked.”
Keyword of your sentence: “attacked.”
Busta’s song did not attack Islam. However, when Islam IS attacked (usually after any large-scale terrorist attack i.e. last week’s Mumbai tragedy), I stand up for the Faith or people. (note: I still am extremely annoyed by the ORIGINAL version of this song, before the remix with the Bismillah + Surah Al-Fatiha chorus lyrics was released)
On the other hand, the people who think Busta is an “undercover Jew” or just “attacking Islam” without any kosher tendencies cannot possibly be doing anything EXCEPT overreacting!
Unless he comes out with an album cover that superimposes his face on this drawing (http://www.mcculloughsite.net/stingray/photos/1mowest.jpg), you really have no legit case in saying he’s “attacking” Islam.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:38 am
The thing is this.
1. Yes, Busta Rhymes is a Muslim and though he maybe a newly converted or whatever, he should have known better. But many Muslims today should also know better about a lot of things.
No doubt he’ll apologise but as a Muslim, forbid the action, but don’t cuss the human being guys. That’s not Islam either. That alone, of judgement is left to Allah SWT.
So, speak civil because your an ambassador of Islam.
2. For those who don’t understand why the fuss, then here is the thing:
a) The Holy Qur’an is a revelation from God, a law and a way of life for Muslims.
b) So to even sing it with music, or to touch it without cleanliness, is itself a disrespects. The Qur’an is not some book full of words Muslim recite but a divine law, words of God.
So someone singing it, with music, is bad enough, but also, mixing it about women, and Oh baby etc…is really mad.
3. I expect every Muslim though who is serious about forbiding negativity, baddness, and do good, to also speak up when someone does this with other religions too.
December 5th, 2008 at 4:46 am
@dean adams:
“So to even sing it with music… is itself a disrespects.”
Again, the Quran itself never prohibits that. Such a rule was made by subsequent Mullahs (predominantly those of the Wahabi tradition in Saudi), along with many other questionable non-Quranic edicts that have been blindly followed over the past 1600 years.
Evolve, already!
December 5th, 2008 at 4:49 am
@dean adam:
“The Quran is not some book full of words Muslim recite”
Really? Then what the hell goes on at my local mosque every Friday afternoon???
Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jivNz_i9QTU
December 5th, 2008 at 5:16 am
I’m not sure if you guys aren’t from the USA, or what but…Busta Rhymes is NOT a Muslim. He is a 5percenter. This group is an African American group that split from the NOI. They believe that the BLACK MAN is Allah. A(arm)L(Leg)L(Leg)A(arm)H(head). Let me repeat, 5 percenters believe that the BLACK MAN IS ALLAH. So insha Allah, the whole “Busta Rhymes” is a Muslim debate will now cease, subhanAllah. The sad thing is, there are other Muslims on this track, and not one of them thought that this was a horrible idea. Allahu Musta’an. “Music” The Qur’an of the shaytan, I guess I shouldn’t even be surprised.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:20 am
DEAN ADAMS
#3. YES!!!! You are So right akhi, subhanAllah. May Allah make it easy for us, ameen.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:24 am
I still dont know how i feel about the song, and honestly i dont feel that i know enough about the religious controversy to have an opinion. I will say i like the beat but as far as the content of the song goes i understand how people would get offended and to be honest i dont know if it was a smart decision for busta to do that. Even if he meant it to be in a positive manner (which im sure he did) its almost impossible to create songs with lyrics involving religion and culture this heavily and not get negative feed back. With that said:
1. Whoever wrote this article obviously does not support busta rhymes as and artist and maybe even hip hop for that matter and they clearly are uneducated on it. Yes busta was dropped from interscope but he wanted to be due to altercations with Jimmy iovine, the label head. He is far from a failing artist have had an extremely successful career leading up all the way to his last effort, the big bang. Now he has a considerable “buzz” which is key for an upcoming release and its not entirely due to the shockwaves created by this song. And for all those who want the song to be banned and for busta to “rot” your only helping his career by making those comments.
2. One final comment: If you do dont like it, dont buy it or change the station when it comes on. It may have been offensive but its not the first time and certainly wont be the last. Dont blame hip hop either, all genres have controversial songs.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Busta is a muslim but mentions 5 percent rules and aspects of the 5 percent nation in his music. he says allah is the highest in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm0dhky6wFk
December 5th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Him speaking of “Allah” doesn’t negate him being a 5%, lol. He is speaking of himself, or his father, or his son. BLACK MAN = Allah. And if he was mentioning 5% anything…shirk is the only unforgivable sin. Allah said many times in the Qur’an that shirk will be not forgiven, the people that die upon this sin will be in Jahannam forever. I’m not trying to argue with you, but this is a VERY serious matter. If Busta Rhymes was Muslim I would be so happy and make dua’ that he gets his life together, but I will not refer to a man / person that beliefs that Allah is all Black men as a Muslim because a person can not hold tawheed and shirk in his heart together. This is not my opinion, this is Ad Deenul Haqq.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:38 am
And you are right C. about it won’t be the first or the last. But the Prophet Muhammad (sal Allahu alehe was salam) said when we see an evil change it with our hands, if we can not then change it with our mouths, if we can not then hate it in our hearts and THAT is the weakest of faith. So is the answer to go burning down Busta’s house and studio. SubhanAllah NO. Following the Sunnah is a balanced way of life (contrary to popular belief). At best we speak out against it in a civilized, peaceful manner armed with proof from Qur’an and Sunnah. Our words may not sway the opinions of the people, but insha Allah, we will please our Lord by obeying HIS Last Messenger. And that is what our goal should be.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:58 am
(1) Ab `Amir (or Ab Mlik) al-Ash`ar (radiyallhu anhu) mentions that Raslullh sallallhu alayhi wasallam said:
“Indeed, there will be in my Ummah such people who will regard as permissible for themselves fornication, silk, wine and musical instruments” (Narrated by Imam Bukhari in his Saheeh)
(2) Nabi (sall Allahu alayhi wasallam) has said: “Indeed, people will change the name of wine to consume it and play with musical instruments, Allah will cause the earth to swallow them and change them into monkeys and swines”
(3) Imrn ibn Husayn (radiyallhu anhu) narrates that Raslullh sallallhu alayhi wasallam said:
“In this Ummah there will be [people who will be] sunk into the earth, deformed, and upon whom stones will rain from heaven.”
When the Sahb enquired as to when will that be, Raslullh sallallhu alayhi wasallam replied:
(When singing girls and instruments of music will appear (become prevalent), and wine will be drunk.)
@ H-Bomb, mullahs aren’t the only ones that preached against music. It was discouraged even by the prophet Mohammad PBUH.
December 5th, 2008 at 6:20 am
This is dumb! It’s freedom of speech, even if what he’s sayin is wrong or blasphemous, he’s allowed to say whatevr the hell he wants!! Keep goin Busta
December 5th, 2008 at 6:56 am
buster rhymes;if-tha-t, makes a rhymn or hymn in english..-from Biblicology..dnt want to argue with top dogs…or snoppy will come out..who killed origion B.I.G. Get it real,,who the mother fucker is Buster Rahman…now…me and my Religion; come come.!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Dnt care who your are brothers there he came in uk few weeks ago.. doing his tink.. with little jacik.. and done few show in xcel o2.in Dockland..and made money and left..
December 5th, 2008 at 7:02 am
@US of A and B.Baylor
Well, there are certain aspects of the Prophet Mohd.’s (PBUH) life and examples that we know better than to follow today. Thus, his archaic prohibition against “singing girls and instruments of music” ought to be interpreted in a slightly more evolved context, as well. (again, look at Sufiism, though I am by no means equating Busta’s song to spiritual Qawwali music)
@ B.Baylor:
If Busta was still a 5 Percenter, he would not have said “Allah, the most merciful, etc.” in that video because 5 Percenters refer to the Self as being God rather than a separate entity in the third-person. That is proof that Busta is in fact a follower of Islam. Either you have something against Blacks being non-NOI Muslims, or you’re just too irrational in your thinking to believe the words out of Busta’s own mouth proclaiming his Muslim faith.
Also, your “Music- The Quran of the Shayten” comment clearly shows your own primitive way of thinking. I’m surprised you even allow yourself to use a computer and the internet. There’s no sense in clinging to every single 5th Century value in such a Taliban-esque manner, nor trying to reason with someone who does so.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
African gangsters being rude and insulting is nothing new.
They’re forever insulting gays, white people and women.
The best course of action is to ignore the drug dealers altogether.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
i think the main point regardless of all our individual opinions is that of the opinion of the Lord of the worlds,
who created you and i and to whom we shall all return.
nothing changes the truth whether we believe it or not.
the point is that you use the Mighty words of Allah, yet you boast about the Haram things which Allah has prohibited.
if effect its like mocking Allah and saying O Allah here is your rules,but look how im going against your rules.
this is what the key issue is.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Is music haraam?
December 5th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
bring it down, bring it allll down!!!!
we must keep protesting bros n siss - write to the record label, radio 1 anyone!!!
bring it down!
December 5th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
My last comment on this post, I am in fact an African American Muslim that is not in the NOI, so your assumptions as well as your ‘facts’ are horribly wrong (Hbomb). And again, the words “Qur’an of the shaytan” are not my words, again the Prophets (sal Allahu alehe was salaam). But its cool, because its obvious that you have a problem with following him. And thats not my problem, nor my business. We will all meet Allah on Yawmul Qiyaam.
Have fun trying to mislead people!
December 5th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
The article quotes this “No other major UK radio station has played the song”
If you look at Youtube and find Radio One DJ Tim Westwood’s video, you’ll see him dancing to the song as he broadcasts it on a national BBC station!
December 5th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I don’t see why everyone is getting so angry, yes it is wrong for him to put the fateha on the song, or any part from the Holy Quran, but it is his business, HE must answer for this on judgement day not YOU!
One of the greatest sins is to judge people, so really I would advise you TO look into your own selfs and see what you are doing wrong in the way of Allah and what you can do to follow the right path FIRST…..
December 5th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
One of the miracles of Islam is the beauty and rythem of the Quran, at the time of the Prophet non-muslims were drawn to it’s beauty and people would recite it in market places.
BustaRymes is resurrecting a long forgotten sunna - to be fixiated by the very sound of Surah. He is not bound by Islam, he can eat pig and drink alcohol as much as he likes, and so he is not bound by what you and I think is correct in accordance with Islam. I agree with others I do not think he intended to cause offense. If anything it can only amount to good that more poeple will hear the Quran and appreciate its sound. In a deeply Islamophobic west this kind of usage normalises Islamic symbolism in a positive way. Can you imagine a non_Muslim hearing it, there is nothing in the song he will be able to identify that demeans in any way our religion.
That you and I can be offended by this is a pity, we see Quran as something untouchable, exclusive and not for day to day use and hence when someone who is not “entitled to use” it appreciates it we cannot understand and because it is used within the context of BustaRymes life which we consider sinful we think this is disrespectful. Remember, when it was recited during the prophets time in the market place this was also within a backdrop of surrounding “sin” including fornication etc. During the time of the Prophet non_Muslims would go around the Kabba stark naked - but there is not one word of complaint or “offense” recorded to be expressed by the Prophet or his companions.
I say think a bit bit before you jump to conclusions, Islam is not something small and particular to your culture it is as vast and encompasing as nature itself and it’s use and benefits as varied and expansive as oceans.
Who are you and me to put it in a box and decide who can or in what way it can be used?
December 5th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Whoops sorry! Just realised Busta’s a Muslim. Good for him!
That doesn’t change the substance of what I have said above.
Doing something wrong in morality or other aspects of private life is not your business. When someone commits a real harm to someones life that is when the duty arises to stop the harmer. We are not Busta’s keeper; we are not guardians of Allah’s words, He does that Himself; we are not moral police to tell someone not to do something because we “think” it offensive.
1.5 millions Palestinians in Gaza are being starved in a seige as we speak. Taht is something we should feel offended by and do something about.
December 5th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
OMD he is a muslim…..i just wanid to say to those people who are making comments about other people from different faiths…..dont go there that is so low it aint nothing to do with them i tink! and so what if it does lets not go there even joke about it coz our duty is to defend our faith…islam. im just saying this coz the Prophet PBUH, never use to insult anyone even by means of a joke of this manner. MAY WE ALL BE GUIDED i may have done the same soo many timesbut i guess we need to point this out to each other.
as for busta c wat the world is coming to, the day of judgement feels so near bcoz there is so much corruption in this world…..
December 5th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
i kind of agree with koko but ALLAH will ask us wat we did about it…..coz this is just an open invitation to others to do things like this……its a two way situation….look at galaxy fm it has put a stop to it coz of the complaints but there is no need to say things specifically bout busta coz den u fall into the category of judging
December 6th, 2008 at 12:28 am
BUSTA RHYMES MUSLIM OKAY THEN LOL
THIER ALLAH = ARM LEG LEG ARM HEAD THATS WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD AND ALL OF THAT THEIR NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER MAKKAH OR DO HAJJ BECAUSE THEIR NOT CLASIFIED AS A MUSLIM
December 6th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Nigga’ can buss’a rhyme yea but not if he doesnt know what his actualy spitting’ about which he cleary does therefore not is only blasphemous and unacceptable but i feel so strongly about it because many things seem to go un-noticed as it is, but in this case his message is very clearly defined and ultimatley holds not only negative connotations but it implies that Islam is the cause of this terror and etc increasing the islamapobia buisniss, me being a hardcore-music evrything fan i will be sure to delete all his songs from my ipod… even ‘break ya neck’ which is likeee bigg but just to show some concern and ‘boyyment to his life” x Peace an i advise all muslims to do the same - no mater what ur religiousity levels…
Suicidal B
December 6th, 2008 at 1:31 am
> Caity
The article says that no other radio station has played the *REMIX*, and not the original tune! The original has been playing on most major radio stations (including on westwoods programme!) for many months now. Get your facts staright before you try an recorrect someone!
December 6th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Ohwell people shouldnt download it either if they already know what its about or even bother to hear what he has to say
December 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
OMG im Muslim and Arab. AND I LOVED IT! ITS FREAKING AWSOME!
December 7th, 2008 at 6:41 am
The song is just bad, really really bad and the dj is a moron for playing the remix.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
@ H-Bomb
You’ve met Busta Rhymes in your Dj-ing Days on Radio 1 and KissFM. You still have contacts with Trevor Nelson and Crew. I think you should have a word with them. Why??
Ultimately, we all get judged by our intensions. What was his intention? After all, this was the first Hadith of all hadiths in the book of hadith..
Only Allah knows the truth, but we could also find out. So dig into pocket mate and find your phone and call them.
It is narrated on the authority of Amirul Mu’minin, Abu Hafs ‘Umar bin al-Khattab, radiyallahu ‘anhu, who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ‘alayhi wasallam, say:
“Actions are (judged) by motives (niyyah), so each man will have what he intended. Thus, he whose migration (hijrah) was to Allah and His Messenger, his migration is to Allah and His Messenger; but he whose migration was for some worldly thing he might gain, or for a wife he might marry, his migration is to that for which he migrated.”
Read More: http://www.bogvaerker.dk/The_Complete_Forty_Hadith.html
And Muslims.. don’t react by being ultra harsh.. have patience and think logically… If Busta is genuinely Muslim and newer to the faith, he may have made mistakes, (I’m sure he’s not the only one, we all have). But Allah (SWT) is more merciful towards one who repents. His Mercy is greater than his anger and he loves the one who sincerely asks for his forgiveness..
And get this!
If a muslim is forgiven by Allah then ALL his BAD deeds are converted into GOOD deeds. WE could even be helping him to gain an exasperated reward. Then you have the whole concept of Sadaqa Ja’riya (continuous charity, builing a mosque etc).. But I’ll leave it here for the time being… Wasalam.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
BTW, what he said about being muslim:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm0dhky6wFk
December 9th, 2008 at 12:56 am
The Narcicyst - The Real Arab Money
http://www.imeem.com/allhiphop/music/AjlLkc8I/the_narcicyst_the_real_arab_money/
I like this response to Busta’s track.
December 9th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I got a fwd text from my friend saying that if I support this song, I should be hanged.
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Bit out of order I thought…
December 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
“friend?” - You guys must be real tight.
December 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
lol semantics
December 10th, 2008 at 4:08 am
why do muslims always get soooo offended whenever anyone ever says, does, or uses there religion for any means of fun. We do it to Christians, Hindu’s, and Jews all the time and nobody cares, get over it. It’s all in good fun, Welcome to America
December 10th, 2008 at 8:23 am
did all of you forget they flew airplanes into american buildings? and did you all forget we have freedom of speech?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:09 am
With the recent controversy surrounding Busta’s ill-conceived song “Arab Money”…Busta has personally apologised to an Iraqi rapper and has expressed he perhaps, was a little foolish with the content….but what really caught my eye was a funny comment on the AllHipHop site on the issue…I@m not gonna quote the whole topic, but I will post the ending…
“…I thought religion was supposed to help you live a better life, learn to love, respect and promote peace, but half the time assholes take it and twist it to make some foul shit out of it. Devout Christians are fucking homophobes. Radical Muslims basically want war with whoever aint down with Islam, cause you’re an infidel and shit. Fuck, man. I like Buddhists! When’s the last time you heard a mutha fucka get killed in the name of Buddha?”
HAHAHAHAHA - uummmm what about Tibet?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Ultimately, we all get judged by our intensions. What was his intention? After all, this was the first Hadith of all hadiths in the book of hadith..
Only Allah knows the truth, but we could also find out. So dig into pocket mate and find your phone and call them.
It is narrated on the authority of Amirul Muminin, Abu Hafs Umar bin al-Khattab, radiyallahu anhu, who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhi wasallam, say:
Actions are (judged) by motives (niyyah), so each man will have what he intended. Thus, he whose migration (hijrah) was to Allah and His Messenger, his migration is to Allah and His Messenger; but he whose migration was for some worldly thing he might gain, or for a wife he might marry, his migration is to that for which he migrated.
Read More: http://www.bogvaerker.dk/The_Complete_Forty_Hadith.html
And Muslims.. dont react by being ultra harsh.. have patience and think logically If Busta is genuinely Muslim and newer to the faith, he may have made mistakes, (Im sure hes not the only one, we all have). But Allah (SWT) is more merciful towards one who repents. His Mercy is greater than his anger and he loves the one who sincerely asks for his forgiveness..
December 10th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Rah, big blog of comments. A lot of people all expressing their Ops. I say that he make a public apology..
December 10th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
1000’s of Muslims dying and people get worked up about a beat and a hook. Just shows you the insecure self-centered state of mind of young Muslims nowadays. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
December 10th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
i dont think muslims should get so worked up, its just some wanna be g-stars with their fat ass egos filled wilth shit, ignorence and zero tolerence of other peoples cultures and religion.
apparently busta da hustler(according to his ego), didnt intend to cause offence, well i think he got more than he bargained for. fair enough, comment on the culture as many singers do, der songs usually reflect thier own culture of dring, drugs, guns and girls. his song just shows how jealous he is of the arab culture, so what if there rich, im sure they work hard to get where they are, never heard of meritocracy ey busta.
i think he took his stupid song a step further than he should have, whether he is muslim or not, or claims to be muslim or not, he shouldnt say he is cuz his actions do not reflect what muslims represent. even if he may be muslim, he must have been taught the importance of the quran, and how the quraan is the word of god, and how dare he make a mockery of the words of god by singing them in his filthy videos, surely gods words deserve the same respect he gives to his money and drink, even if he is a complete ass to his religion.
peace busta u dumb fuck!
December 10th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Busta Rhymes fell off, no wonder he got kicked out of Aftermath. His music has no substance.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
w@@f w@@f bu5ta - great post mate, you should start a debate club.
December 10th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
this song is disgustin
December 10th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
You can be upset about the lyrics, its fine, but if you are from america then its unamerican to say it should be banned. Freedom of speech is one of the building blocks of our society. You cant be selective on what you think is and is not ok to say. If someone wants to listen to it its their right. If a radio station plays it, change the station and call and ask them to stop playing it but dont say it should be banned and not put out. If we do that then where do we draw the line?
December 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
WTF
i wish one day i c an open minded muslim
come on guys it’s just a song
i mean y u get mad because they sing about something they don’t even know while u hear rappers like the game talkin about jesus and making fun of him and u say nothing
and u TARIQ u r so retarded because he brought islam in the middle of the song u made him muslim??
Man u r pathetic!!!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
There is no such thing as free speech, and you know it’s true.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
To all,
I’m a young man (27…no don’t laugh!) still learning about my religion. To me with all i’ve seen and heard I feel an overwhelming sense of Hubris (Towering Pride) in a lot of statements. My young view of Islam is that it is about perception. One of it’s main edicts is that we should “seek knowledge and understand.” Life is all about perception/s.
Surely such zealous attitudes only foment further angst and discord? I LOVE a discussion (my friends say I like to argue…) and try not to get angry or lose an open mind. Have an opinion but do not disrespect your fellow brothers and sisters (I mean our race in general, not just the Muslim community) by belittling them. The things i’ve noticed is that Islam is vastly changed by the culture/s we live in. As long as we realise that and are brought up to believe, try and realise that NO ONE is perfect then…Inshallah we will be received with love on the Day of Judegment.
I have a long way to go and i’m sure many others do also. So on that note, I bid you all luck in achieving whatever you set out to do.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:50 am
first and foremost free speech is one our fundemental rights living in a free, democratic country however there has to be a limit to what people can reasonably say because no one can deny the power of the word, esp of influential people. OK busta rhymes is a failing rapper but there are still a lot of young kids out there who would listen to his lyrics and mind meaning in them or thoughtlessly go around monkeying the same behavior/language. Freedom of speech is all well and good but if its going to incite racial or religion hatred then then I’m out.
@ Rob - no hard as it maybe to believe the whole 2+ billion population did not, in fact conspire together and plan the tragedy that is 9/11, those were the actions of a few fanatical “muslims” furthering their own aims using the grounds of islam. Just because these few muslims flew 2 planes into 2 towers does not warrant for an onslaught verbal abuse through whichever medium towards muslims at large.
December 11th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Cbean390 what world u living man?? wake up u retard, u live in the most worst place to live on this earth, if your coloured and u have religiuos views other than jesus u dont have a right to exist. so how da fuck can u say we living in world where we are excercising freedom of speech, ur country (america), sure u think theres freedom of speech but the only dialogue i see going on is constant verbal attacks on other races and religions. so…. i excercise freedom of speech buh this is at a basic level like what im doing right now, if i were to go stand in times square and tell people what i think theyll probably shoot me on the spot and tell everyone i was a terrorist!!!
“You cant be selective on what you think is and is not ok to say”, hell yes u can, after reading this ur going to be thinking why did this person write this, they shoudnt have, this is not acceptable language(well according to u)!!! and htere is no line thats why no one knows where to draw it dumb ass!!!
i hope i havent affended ya in anyway its just that i think ur view is quite american and i respect that, but its good to be open minded and see how freedom of speech is used in other parts of the world, busta did send out to offend, if we let him, a failing artist, get away with mocking a religion/culture i think by noit taking a stand then it will become common ground for other artists to mock religions. and beacuse of peoplelike u who believe its freedom of speech for one person to express their views(busta) then its not ok for another person(everyoe ho listents to busta) to express there views and that is just what is happening here!!
December 11th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
This is gowin out to a few induviduals, DUDE, H,BOMB, ROB, GONDOR, AND DUCTA, you peeps have all lost the plot u thick people dont even no what mans r on about, truthley the bottem line is americans r mother fuckers!!!!! n jews r even bigga bastards!!!! n Busta rymes is a son of a bitch he best watch what he says in his songs in the future and what he mixes them with!!! or he will get dealt with like that mutha fuka who done the cartoons burned to death in his own home!!! watch out busta!!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
oh and by the way if anyone has a problem with the text that i have just posted then ” WHAT HAPPEND TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH” LOL….. BADMAN!!!
December 12th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Why is everyone making a big DEAL!! if u listen to the original version its just gibberish!! Everyone being pathetic and btw
“BADMAN”…. “Watch out busta” thats is just the silliest thing ever he is not a son of a bitch!
December 12th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Peace To Everyone , I Just Want To Say To All Of The Islam Haterz ( You Have NO Religion , We Have The Lord Of The World {Allah The Greatest }) .
Peace Be With All of You .
December 13th, 2008 at 12:04 am
The Qur’an tells you to do the opposite of everything Busta Rhymes boasts on about things like, gambling, crime, money, drinking…etc! Heard the way they mixed it up? It sounds so different to the way it would be pronounced in the Qur’an, almost as if it’s taking the mik!!
I’ve heard that Busta rhymes himself is a muslim, I’m a muslim but I DO NOT see that as racism, yes, even though he incorporated the Qur’an’s words with his song…I don’t think he would set out to damage his reputation from one of the FASTEST GROWING RELIGONS IN THE WORLD! After all he is one of the biggest most successful names in hip hop!
December 13th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Its a song, offensive or not, it a form of expression, opinions, or just a musical form. Even if it’s crappy or not. Trust me, I’ve heard worse, stop complaining. and i’m not Muslim but Hindu so i’m not too far, i have The Holy Qur’an in my selves. Music just sucks these days so this isn’t that surprising. whats surprising is that some people think that this is something new, fresh and cool. I don’t know where they have been but this is just what i’m thinkin’…
December 13th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
as a muslim i personally have no problems with this, any thing i see it as a way of working towards people learning more about our faith as people with the internet will now go out and wanna find the translation, and find out what all the up roar is about. I think music is an excellent way to help people remember things , and any thing that helps me rememebr my faith , cant be a bad thing, as its more of a chorus, it keeps repeating through our heads thru out the day, plus bein a muslim the other parts of the songs will help us to rememebr they are haram, come on guys we all have brains were not brain washed, we know the diff between right and wrong.
December 13th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
w@@f w@@f bu5ta, I said America was founded on the principle of freedom of speech. Its one of our building blocks. Now whether people follow that rule is seriously up for dedate in almost every aspect of American society. I DO NOT agree with that. There are too many people who feel that America should be followers of GOD and thats it. I hate people complaining about people calling it Holiday time instead of Christmas time because they feel that it should be Christmas time and only Christmas time we celebrate. America is advanced citizenship and people forget that. Its the right to say what you want in the situation that is appropriate (ie schools may be an example where freedom of speech is not allowed because kids at that age are far more impressionable than adults). I am curious to see what you want to say in the middle of Times Square though that would, in your opinion, probably get you shot though. It would probably be something pretty anti-american so I am forced to ask, If i were to say something similar to what you said only in relation to your countries biggest city how would your people react? Im just curious, it may be far off from getting shot, maybe its commonplace to yell your opinions in that city, i dont know but it would be interesting to see. I think your veiw of ALL americans has been warped (Not incorrectly, we definitly fuck up a lot) but dont assume that after reading your statement that i dont think what you have said is “not acceptable language” or some bullshit like that cause you have no idea who i am, what my values are and so on. I agree with you, my veiw is quite American and that probably has something to do with the fact that it is the country i live in, but im just taking stabs in the dark here. And as far as busta sending the song out to offend as you say he did, he’s already made several apologies for the song explaining himself so i dont see how you can say that. And as far as him being a failing artist i dont see how that can be true because he has never dropped a dud album and his last one was very popular, I dont know if you know the song “Touch it/ Touch it Remix” but it was kind of a big deal. He went through some politics with the label, he didnt agree with the head executive and asked to leave, he wasnt dropped or any of that bullshit so stop calling him a failing rapper until he actually falls off, if he does then by all means do. Have a nice day.
December 14th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I have the songs and I have listened to both the remix and original, I don’t find it offeniding being A Muslim living in the middle east. The artists all believe in God and they can praise to God In their ways using arabic verses which are not only found in the Holy Quran.
December 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
So to all Muslims Just lighten up A little bit..
December 14th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Msg to all…
Firstly would like to make clear that i strongly disagree with the quran being disrepected by playing it along with music..me as a muslim who loves Allah and wants to uphold the sanctity of his name and word sure i’m not best pleased…
BUT would like to point out that other muslims do the same thing all the time and no one bats an eyelid…other muslims release tracks in which they sing about Allah and quote words of the quran with musical instruments playing in the back ground…and Busta says he is a muslim..and since he has openly committed an act of apostay (to my knowledge) we have to go by that…make excuses for him etc…as he as many muslims dont actully know that music is Haraam. So wheather the muslim who decided to use music and say the name/words of Allah along with it then there all doing something wrong not its halal for the pakistanis and haraam for the reverts rather its something sinful for all the muslims…
May Allah forgive us all of out sins Ameen.
December 14th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
No one should really care because Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and all other religions (large cults) are schemes and the fact that anyone believes what was written in a book more than a thousand years ago is simply astounding. I marvel at the stupidity of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Busta Rhymes is awesome. Just shut up and don’t listen if you’re offended that he is “disrespecting” your waste of time you call a religion.
December 14th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
tht may be tru, but u tell me if that was the case how come the scientific claims made in quran are still tru to this day? and how come the quran still applies to this day?
that book was around a long time ago and some of the facts made in the quran are way ahead of its time.
so before u talk utter rubbish, read up lil boy on these so called cults and make a formed decision instead of splurting utter rubbish
December 15th, 2008 at 2:41 am
This is totally bs b/c i found about this song from my friend which is a practicing muslim and he loves the song so so muslims dont find it offensive.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:34 am
this song is awesome, get over it
December 15th, 2008 at 10:10 am
>Paul
I assure you, this song is very very offensive. The fact that your mate doesn’t find it says nothing about muslims, and more about him.
December 15th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Find it interesting that Busta didn’t use the same Arabic vocals on the recently released part 2 of the remix:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/526989499721f33d/
December 16th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Firstly, i dont think busta meant any offence to muslims. Secondly, ppl should stop saying he is a muslim, or he isnt, thats not the whole issue, cos even P.Diddy says ‘Alhamdulilah’ this is why i think its not offensive.
Third;y, people are missing out on the main issue. the chorus is HOLY therefore mixed in with other lyrics about gambling,money, alcohol and women is WRONG. thats the issue here, and thats why myself and many other muslims are outraged.
Fourthly, think what type of song it is? its a “CLUB BANGER” meaning it will be played in the clubs, which is an inappropriate place to play the chorus which contains holy words.
I dont think busta meant any real intention ( i hope not), but it is WRONG and OFFENSIVE.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Do u guys want to know why the song is offensive, number one it is misrepresenting a people, 2 groups of people to be exact, Arabs and Muslims. As u all might not know, not all Arabs are Muslim and not all Muslims are Arabs. In his first version of the song he calls Arabs, Ayrabs…Ayrab is a derogatory term which I personally as an ARAB find offensive, a Christian Arab would find this term derogatory as well. And by reciting the Quran and then saying Arab money he is stereotyping that all Muslims are Arabs and they are not… Indians, Iranians, Turks, Afghanistanis are not Arabs… there are MUSLIMS all over the world but not Arabs… there are even Chinese Muslims, so what in the name of God does Arab money have to do with Islam and the Quran??
We as MUSLIMS do use the words of the Quran in songs but RELIGIOUS songs, they are called anasheeds such as this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOj3aDfuR_o
by Sami Yusuf who is not an ARAB but a Muslim who is from Pakistan. I dont think this song promotes drinking, adultery, gambling, promiscuous activity…I dont think this song will be played at any club anytime soon…where girls grind their asses on guys which really in Islam and Christianity adultery is a sin but we MUSLIMS still follow these rules and try our best to refrain from sinning.
Or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQraTe-jSz4
its my Yusuf Islam formerly known as Cat Stevens…
orrrrrrrr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dtSRvyfxc4&feature=related by Zain also another Pakistani Muslim. its called Allah knows
this is what Islam represents U CANT TAKE IT WITH U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dtSRvyfxc4&feature=related so u should understand why we would get offended and I think u have no right to tell us to lighten up. We shouldnt have to explain why we get offended when u talk about our religion or make fun of our people. Im an Arab Muslim born and raised in the U.S Im fairly open minded but when it comes to religion u people are taking it too far. We have a right to our privacy, and u can say what u want but not offending others ur discriminating people. And frankly Im sick of this whole anti Islam thing and anti Arab thing. Arabs are Semites go make a song about Jews and lets see if they wont get offended and if they dont call u anti Semitic. Go make a video about blacks and call them the N word and see if u wont have a major law suit on ur head. Ok so dont tell us what we can and cant feel. the video is offensive one he is not Arab 2 he is misrepresenting Arabs and Muslims.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Stop crying!
December 16th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Ahmed, He is Muslim - Br Mutah Beale (Napoleon - 2pac) confirmed it the other day at LMC. But a new muslim who has been careless in his actions.
OK, now we know he is muslim, what about all the other muslims that live in the UK and do all other kinds of bad things? Are they of the same calibre?
December 17th, 2008 at 1:50 am
every muslim i know drinks, does drugs, sleeps around, gets tattoos, why dont all of you go cry about how there are so many muslims doing bad shit and not worry about something the is on a song…..IM GETTING ARAB MONNNEEYYYYYYY
December 17th, 2008 at 2:22 am
Whats good brothers and sisters im from america.
Lets see this song is offensive and i know but none of us can do anything for this ignorance. But every single people that are mad should realize that Allah does everything for a reason. Think about it now since people are getting attached to the music now they might search the religion and inshallah they will become muslim. U might think im thinking out of the box but im not because people seems to follow people like busta rhymes and maybe theyll change for the good.
Im from a real ghetto area so everywhere i go this is the song being played and many of the 252s and other gangsters ask me what it means and i give them a explanation. im bored of riting.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:59 am
All my fellow Muslims: Your offense to the Quran being played in a song shows your weakness of faith. One who is strong in imaan is not affected by the follies of man. The Quran is holy and so is Allah thus it is above being mocked and disrepected. Do you think that if I were to walk into a bar, gambling house or brothel and recite the Quran that I am somehow committing sin. Foolishness. Shaitan cannot be wherever Al-fatiha is recited so in a way, by juxtaposing Quranic verse with lyrics about sinning Busta was banishing sin. Perhaps he made to the song to come to terms with his own unIslamic habits. But I don’t really know how this man lives. I can only live for Allah and on one else and I really don’t care about the “image” of Islam in the eyes of others because it does nothing to take away from the Faith. Faith in Allah is all and doubt everything else.
Like the brother Abdurahman stated above, the Quran should be recited everywhere all the time.Who says that the words of the Quran must be reserved for “special” times in “special” places. That, more than a song, places boundaries on something that is supposed to be eternal and infinite. We should not try to limit others exposure to the Quran. It has a power and cannot be harmed by the whims of humans. The offense you take is to your own ego. It is not up to us to decide what Allah takes “offense” to. He knows his creation and our ways.
And those who mention intentions. We have no idea what Busta’s are so leave it be. Don’t turn on the radio or go to the club. But for all you know, he may have included the verses in a “Club Banger” in order to introduce others to the Quran who would otherwise be unaware of its beauty. Nothing, not even being placed in a rap song, can reduce the beauty of the Quran.
Whether he intended that or not, that may be the result. So there maybe wisdom in this gesture on Busta’s part.
Salaam
December 17th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Addendum:
I must clarify my first sentence.I don’t mean to imply that those Muslims I’m addressing lack faith. That is between you and Allah but I have observed that often those who take the most offense to “something” (anything) are insecure about what they stand for whether it be loyalty to a nation or perceived slights to ones person. Just an observation.
Think of the animal kingdom. Animals whose integrity and constitution have been compromised are the most defensive.
Just a thought
WS
December 19th, 2008 at 1:15 am
Everybody is offended nowadays, but nobody would give a crap if this song offended Christians or white people.
December 19th, 2008 at 2:44 am
This is song is hot! Sorry Muslims, they getting Arab money!
December 19th, 2008 at 3:55 am
Josh,
You statement right implies that Christians and White people would give a crap if a song offended them. Matter of fact they complain just as much as anyone else.
December 19th, 2008 at 4:23 am
How can we complain? We’re labeled racist or intolerant if we complain. That’s how it is in “PC America”.
December 19th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
I heard this song for the first time in the club about 2 weeks ago and really liked it. I think the beat mainly because I honestly couldnt tell you what they’re actually talking about in the song…never listened to it that closely. However, I had no idea it was so offensive to so many people. I am not muslim, I am Christian, but I do respect the values, views, and cultures of others and now I just don’t feel quite so comfortable listening to the song. I guess its no different than rappers putting Jesus or God in any of their other songs….that offends most Christians. I just choose to respect everyones views and now I’m mad because I liked that song!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Josh,
Typical whiny “white Christian”.
So like when minorities point out discrimination and take offense to caricatures and stereotypes in the media, we’re not called “whiny’ and “ungrateful” and even racist when we support measures that attempt to eliminate discrimination. Please, the new “endangered” species victim identity group is “white, Christian, males” the guys who’ve been running this country for the last 250 years and retain most positions of power. Stop crying and realize that your privilege as a member of the “majority” would be happily traded for by other minorities.
December 19th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Let me ask you a question. WHO GIVES A SHIT? it isn’t even that offensive lighten up he has not directly insulted muslims so Shut the Fuck Up
December 19th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
You can Bitch and Moan all you want nothing is going to change. The truth is nobody realy cares.
December 20th, 2008 at 1:14 am
The track arab money has been withdrawn from all shops and radio stations so SOMETHING DID CHANGE http://www.thenational.ae/article/20081211/NATIONAL/139571205/1010
December 20th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Khalid,
I’m not whining. I’ve accepted it, and I’m just telling it like it is.
I’m sorry you were offended. I know how it feels. I’m offended by some song or television program almost daily. Probably, every person regardless of race, faith, political affiliations, etc. is offended daily. Most of the time, we have good reason. We just have to remember that the offenders will have to account for their actions.
Peace out.
December 21st, 2008 at 2:00 am
When I step up in the place ay yo I step correct
WOO HAAAA!!
Got you all in check…
December 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 am
This is the end of the world, I swear Muhammed (PBUH) has warned us of this……
Allah will deal with his slaves as he intends but we muslims must stand against the use of the holy quran in such haram things as this.
Allah guide us all!
December 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 am
Its not that bad, i mean like you can complain if you want, im not trying to stop you, but its not like they really actually literally said anything against the muslim or arabic community, i think people are overreacting just a tiny bit.
December 23rd, 2008 at 10:54 am
Chill out Khalid, have a lassi.
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Busta rhymmes u muppet ul get shot blud!!!! ur all muppets Cbean390 U WANKER!!!! chill out with the s a’s mate!!! whos busta rymes ur dad or sumfin? uncle? any relation to u? u need the lassi mate!!!! everyone who listens to and likes this song is going to hell any way!!! so HA HA !!!! Aur PIMPLE wh ya say??? wanna have a lassi with me ? x x x…….
December 24th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Can anyone translate BADMAN2’s shit, sorry but I’m a little down on the lingo i guess haha, maybe he doesnt have 5 fingers on each had or the new thing is to make your comments impossible to understand, i dunno……
December 25th, 2008 at 12:44 am
okk i can c ders bin alotta fuss about this song regarding the quranic verses it contains.. it is defo offensive to muslims for a number of reasons.. if i explained them all i’d b ere all day.. the lyrics of the song and the quranic verses are totalli contradictory and goes agenst everytin Islam teaches.. the Quran is not like the Bible in the sense that it is very very sacred and even to touch it a person has to be pure.. soo obviousli its gonna offend alotta Muslims..
Like the brother ‘U S of A’ stated above the hadiths regarding how serious it is to listen to music in the first place and mixing quran with it is just total disrespect to it.. now i dunno if Busta did dis on purpose or was an honest mistake.. if it wass a mistake as Muslims we have to 4giv him as he has apologised.. after all the Prophet went thru so much suffering for example in Ta’if where he was stoned yet he asked for forgiveness for them.. so as Muslims we have to be condemn it firstly but also show 4givness lik da Prophet.. we shud also ignore it bcoz if it was dun purposely he will defo have to give account 4 it on da day of Judgement..
FURTHERMORE making a big scene about it only gives it more publicity and makes more ppl wna listen to it and therefore adds fuel to the fire.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Let’s forget about all this sensitive religious matter. This songs beat is hot, and I think that’s all to matter.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Maybe you guys are just jealous that you’re not making arab money lol
January 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
To all you so-called muslims speaking your collective pieces, this song will make absolutely no impression on anyone that listens to it; most of the free world has already formed it’s impressions of muslims from the idiotic actions of the islamo-fascist portion of their population.
So indeed, lighten up and enjoy the music (maybe if you and your ilk had thicker skin many of your problems might not exist).
January 4th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
The problem with the major Conservative religions today is that they are way too serious to even allow any intellectual or spiritual growth. All the major Conservative religions now have full-time research and PR staffs that do nothing but attempt to monitor and control and crush all debate about them. The major Conservative religious denominations are really selfish because they care nothing about the free market place of ideas. They are all, to use a capitalist analogy, interested in monopoly and nothing else. They are also very bad sports. They are dull people because they can’t take a joke. I love religion, and have spent my life studying it, and I really hate what all these boring, serious people have done to all these ideas which, when played with, can be really fun. Of course the monotheistic religions are the most control-freakish and the suppressive of human playfulness and cosmic flexibility. They are like macho men, rigid, uptight, always insecure, always trying to prove something. Conservative Islam and Conservative Christianity have as their goal, which they are already achieving in Europe, to finally control dialogue, control language. They selfishly use “hurt feelings” as a method to destroy freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is all but gone in Europe. Of course Evangelical Christians tried, time and again to crush free speech here, but failed. Europe and Canada are, sadly losing free speech from both the Control-Freak Left and the Control Freak Religious Conservatives. People who think God is the total slavery and drudgery and seriousness of the Conservatives don’t really know this Universe and probably haven’t the slightest relationship to the Cosmos as it really is. They are contracted, self-protective, self-infatuated with their little culture and their little power and their little control. it’s all a very small-hearted, petty, petty world view. I’m generally not a fan of rap, and I dislike many messages in rap, however, I don’t try to ban it or censor it. Yes, sometimes rap hurts my feelings. However, I don’t feel, like most Religious Conservatives do, that my hurt feelings should have the power to shut down freedom. And Conservative religion is the very worst thing that ever happened to humanity. Liberal religion is where it’s at. The funny thing is, all you have to do is go onto You Tube and watch the body language, the facial expressions, the tone of voice of religious Conservatives and you can tell that they are the meanest people in the world and the furthest from anything like God.
January 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Im assuming youre in america?
and you say Europeans are losing free speech?. maybe
but you guys dont have any say, youre in your own little bubble, force fed crap like no tomorrow. your world views is hideously distorted.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
wait wait.. sitting in casinos while Im gambling with Arafat, while I make you bow down and make Salaat like a Muslim
these lines arent even in the song? wtf?
January 7th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
>Jake One
Those lines are actually from the original ‘Arab Money’:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GYOmWQiVCFQ
January 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
That’s why I don’t like many muslims. They find every little thing offending. Ease up guys, don’t take it too fukcin seriously.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The truth will be known when the day of Qiyamah comes forth, Only Allah knows when but all i say is fear your actions Brothers/Sisters. Muslims fighting Muslims, its Brother vs Brother, OPEN YOUR EYES, STOP FALLING INTO THE DEVILS TEMPTATIONS,NO MATTER WHO THE PERSON: WHITE, BLACK, BROWN, YELLOW, MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN,SIKH… WE MUST LOVE EVERYONE AND HATE NOBODY STOP FIGHTING AMONGST YOURSELF, OPEN YOUR ARMS AND EMBRACE ONE ANOTHER! Look at why people dislike Muslims and Islam, look how our image is being corrupted!
@MatMudock, I agree this song doesn’t tarnish the islamic image, its the extremists that destroy and kill. Everyone knows Islam is a strict religion, but every now and then even a nun or monk will break their vows such do the millions of people that get divorced, like these examples some muslims stray away.
Some of the statements made in this article make me think, Is this how a muslim should think? I recommend everyone has a look at the following link:
http://www.muslimaccess.com/ebooks/signs_of_qiyamah.asp
The reason why Music is haram: When one listens to music it alters the way he/she thinks e.g. when they keep on singing the chorus. It is seen that this “Alter of thought” is the work of they shaytan and therefore music is called haram
The way to overcome this: Dont make music an addiction, I listen to music, but i dont live and die in it, I do that in my religion. Islam isnt the easiest religion to follow but the end reward is always great.
BTW: Have you heard the version to Arab Money by Noose? Just type in Noose - Arab Money in Youtube.
@whatever and everyone else who says lighten
When one takes something to be offensive its because it hurts their feelings. Would you like it if some random man came to your wife and call her a dirty whore? No, sameway A muslim would not like someone Offending Islam.
Before i get flamed,
Brothers and Sisters, Islam means Peace (Incase you forgot 0.0), therefore being a muslim we must stay calm, if u were offended by the song pray the person is forgiven by Allah, because we are not perfect but we should look after each other. Whenever i hear an Insult to Allah, i feel like killing the shaytan out of the person, but that is what the devil does, Tempt. We must hold ourselves and reject the devil, being offended by something you love is not wrong it is natural.
Peace and Safety be Upon You All
Regards Faraz Syed
January 9th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Yeah man. The thing is I don’t know much about Islam (except for the 5 pillars) but all I can see around the world is that many muslim people kinda “live in the past”. They’re too conservative, also way too sensitive. Getting offended by a song like this is something I can’t understand and never will. Get over it, if you don’t like it, don’t listen to it.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
@ whatever
Ill try to explain your confusion. Many many muslims love Islam, they are proud to be Muslims, i am too. They get offended by songs like this because it in a way insults them (an insult to Islam is an insult to a devoted muslim), e.g suppose that someone insults the love of your life, you will feel insult too wouldnt you? This is why they take offense (Once again i advise all who took offense to pray for Busta and the other rappers in the remix and pray that Allah forgives them, everyone does make mistakes).
Also @ whatever, if you do not understand Arabic, Get a Qu’ran that is translated into English, understanding is more important. And Muslims sort of do live in the past because we follow the way our ancestors lived, and how the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) used to live, just the way Christians follow the examples of Jesus. Some muslims are modernizing but it is vital they dont forget the teachings of the Qu’ran.
The Holy Qu’ran holds all the answers.
Peace and Safety be with you
Regards Faraz Syed
January 10th, 2009 at 4:17 am
People need to understand that the remix feautures, Busta rhymes, akon, t-pain, and swizz beatz, ALL of these four people are MUSLIMS! why would he make the song to offend islam if four people in the song are muslim? and the song WAS NOT produced by swizz beatz as said in the article, it was produced by RON BROWZ, as creditted in the actual song!
January 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
it doesnt really matter whether they are muslim or not, its just that you cannot use words from the qu’ran in a song that has a beat, because naats use quranic words but they are just the words themself and the singer, they calm your soul, whereas this is just like T-Pain and Lil Wayne’s Got Money.
Also i know the rappers are muslim, but its not that they should be killed, its just that they should have known better to produce a remix like this. On another note i dont believe they did this to offend people, they probably acted out of ignorance thinking muslims wouldnt mind it, whereas they do and the explanation to that is in my above post’s
Peace and Safety be With You
Regards Faraz Syed
January 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
it doesnt really matter whether they are muslim or not, its just that you cannot use words from the qu’ran in a song that has a beat,
where has it been determined that this is so? Where does it say that a Quranic verse cannot be recited over a beat or sound?
January 10th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
@ Khalid
Brother your question has been answered here:
http://www.jamaat.org/qa/music.html
January 11th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Im sorry, while such an explanation may satify you it does not for me simply because like the M Haq stated it can refer to so many things. I always thought that verse referred to diversions that lead people astray. If u think all entertainment or leisure leads people astray than so be it, but dont single out music.Funny thing is, work can lead one astray as well so to me it implies a sort of moderation not outright banning Its my understanding that the prophet enjoyed listening to poetry, playing with his wives and even went to see some people dance at least once.
Further, some read that verse as expliciting refering to men telling tales of untruth that told by those whose purpose is to lead one from Islam and to make fun of the former.
So mediums like jokes, stories, music, lectures, etc. that don necessarily seek to lead one from Islam would not count, no?
Also, as we are to spend much of time remembering God, well there is plenty of music that impels me towards God-consciousness and towards contemplation of his creation.
How can this song be wrong if upon hearing it, one is reminded of Allah.
Square that one.
January 11th, 2009 at 1:17 am
I didnt say it satisfied me did I now?, also this topic is about the use of Quranic verses in the remix of Arab money. Im not here to fight with my own muslim brothers but here to share knowledge amongst us.
And if u read my post above i dont believe music is haram, it cant lead u astray if u have a strong belief in Allah. Did you know that one of the signs of Qiyamah are the use of quranic verses in songs?
MUSICAL RECITATION
Hadhrat Huzaifah (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, “Recite the Qur’aan in an Arab accent, and do not recite it in the tone of lovers, (musical), the Christians and the Jews.
After me certain people will emerge who will recite the Qur’aan in a musical tone and in the tone of mourners. The Qur’aan will be on their tongues and will not affect their hearts…”
More on the signs on Qiyamah here:
http://www.muslimaccess.com/ebooks/signs_of_qiyamah.asp
I hope this opens your eyes a bit more.
“How can this song be wrong if upon hearing it, one is reminded of Allah.” But you see, you have a very strong belief in Allah, as you did not intake the other lyrics that describe the haram but yet u listened to the chorus and thought of Allah, but my friend that does not occur to all, i know of many muslims who dont think of Allah at all! and when one says Allah hu akhbar they feel annoyed.
There is much more i can say but not write, there is much more i can feel but not say, All i can say is Allah hu Akhbar.
Peace and Safety be With You
Regards Faraz Syed
January 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Sdot if ur not a muslim why the fk are u here, there arent any terrorist here, bin laden is a fucking CIA agent, were not hating busta sum are just saying he unintentionally offended muslims, and uve watched too much jeff dunhams Achmed the dead terrorist, go screw urself u ignorant and naive fuck. go do something useful with ur time.
January 12th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
All of u jus shut the fuck up! How can u b so sad to start a post on a song! It’s a muthafuckin song! Get over it! U all take things way too seriously it’s really pathetic…it’s quite funny to see how serious u all have got over this. Showing different things about islam just to explain the behaviour of these rappers. Stop watchin them and get on with ur life.
January 12th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Your telling us to get on with our life when you decided to come here and write a post telling us to stop lol! its our life we can do what we want with it.
worry about yourself not others
Peace.
January 13th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Lol yeh im tellin u to get on with ur life bcos what ur arguing about is stupid. Dont u see that? True say i did come here and post a reply but I couldn’t help it. After i had read some of the stuff ppl had writtin, I had to write somethin tellin u how sad u r about arguing over this.
Oh and by the way, I’m ain’t worried about anyone…especially not u lot. x
January 13th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
if ur not worried bout us u wouldn’t have posted nuff said
Also this thread asked people opinion on a song, u either like it or not, u find it offensive or u dont, otherwise u dont need to be here.
***Request to Moderator***
Lock this thread its getting out of hand and way off topic. Also after 6000 posts i think this question is pretty much answered…
Peace
January 13th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
EDIT!: @G
only few here are arguing, u obviously never been to a debate before so ill explain. What is going on here is an open debate where everyone can contribute, even you, but its up to the rest whether they want to value your opinion…
Peace
January 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
The fact that ive posted somethin here does not mean I’m worried for you lol ! And I love the track especailly the remix I think it’s a heavy tune! U lot should enjoy it too and stop hating, it’s just muzik. No need to get so personal x
January 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I wasn’t hating, i like the tune but the everyone has their own views and i say as a muslim that the remix isnt all right, its mainly the chorus because its from the Qu’ran and i believe its wrong to use verses from Qu’ran in music. The rest of the song is good, ye but you’ve got to understand and respect what other people believe and in return you get understanding and respect.
January 14th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Yeh bruv infact I do agree wit u a little, if u say it was disrespectful for them to use those verses from the Quran then maybe they shouldn’t have. But don’t forget I don’t think they were intentially tryna diss anyone, jus tryna make some good muzik.
Also can I say, can u not look at this in a good light as many ppl will b listenin to the Quran who wouldn’t normally b, jus by listenin to the track? x
January 14th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Agreed but the Qu’ran will be on their tongues not there hearts, some of my friends were singing it, when asked if they knew what it means they were blank lol.
But ye it was not intentional, they’re all our brothers and made a mistake which they’ve been forgiven for.
Peace and Safety be With you.
January 15th, 2009 at 1:01 am
to tell u the truth I also was singing to it but haven’t got a clue what it means…can u enlighten me? I am very interested to know…x
January 15th, 2009 at 11:01 am
the chrous of the remix translates to
“In the name of Allah (God), most gracious most merciful. All Praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds”
Peace and safety be with you.
January 18th, 2009 at 2:04 am
Cheers x
January 18th, 2009 at 2:05 am
May peace and safety be with you also x
January 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
hmmm well this video of the song is not too bad!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D4lMo6nSQLQ
January 19th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
thats funny lolz, the dance has taken over soulja boys one lol! But seriously getting Arab money is hard lolz, mainly because most arab countries are baking hot. But still that chinese dude made me laugh. xD
January 25th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
GUYS.
LIGHTEN UP.
God is all-powerful. He does NOT need you to defend him from the lyrics of a washed up rapper.
I don’t understand why we Muslims get so worked up over minor things (this song, cartoons of the Prophet, etc). We should kindly educate Busta Rhymes and fellow rappers about what they’re actually saying, advise them that it may be viewed as disrespectful by some, and use it as an opportunity to expose them to Islam.
But there’s no point in getting angry, pointing fingers, and starting a fight. We have bigger fish to fry in our communities - and I don’t just mean injustice in Palestine, I’m talking about poverty, illiteracy, poor education, sectarian violence, abuse of women, etc etc.
January 29th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Understood, and to an extent this has already been mentioned and arguments have ended on this song, so we must pray that our brothers and sisters don’t make the wrong decisions, we must help them.
You may not understand me now but one day you sure will.
May Peace and Safety be With You All.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I can understand where the Muslim’s are coming from being that they worship that book so strictly. I myself know that Busta Rhymes is a Five Percenter (Similar to “The Nation Of Islam”). That so called Islamic movement usually gets disowned by Shia’ and Sunni Muslims, so Busta doesn’t really go by everything they do. I myself as a convert in process of Judaism find it a tad bit offensive to be reciting Quran qoutes when I just wanna hear music..not a religion I dont follow..I’d rather listen to Hebrew Money than that Arab Money crap. Also, they ain’t even Arabs, they’re black. I mean wtf?? Say I’m gettin “American Money”, cause fool you don’t live in Iraq! LOL
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 am
Allah and muhammed are sharmoutas and anyone believing in them are kalbs. Moslems need to see the error of their ways and stop the islamic harb against us kuffars. Muhammed was an ibna and a kalb, and moslems are all sharmoutas, unless they change their ways.
February 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I’m not a Muslim. This song just gives me the impression that Muslims and Arabs in general are just regular people who like to have fun and enjoy life. I don’t feel any animosity towards Muslims or Arabs due to the lyrics of this song and its remixes…in fact, it gives me a certain imagery of hanging out with Muslims and Arabs and simply having a good time.
I’m sorry that the presentation comes off as disrespectful, but I think the intention of the song, and the intentions of the listeners, is not to offend or be anti-Arab, but to lower the barriers a bit and reach out on some common grounds. We may not say the same prayers, but life is life regardless of where we live.
February 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
busta , whats up , you’re not a seventh-day adventist no more ? holla at me !
February 9th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
y is there a big debate no1 shud judge any1 just leave it until the day of judgement wen the you will be judge infront of allah and the angels peace in gaza
February 17th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
I think that this song is highly offensive towards both Muslims and Arabs. It is portraying all Arabs as they live rich and lavish lifestyles, which couldn’t be farther from the truth. I mean ” See now I take trips to Baghdad” I’m pretty sure something called WAR wouldn’t make that so easy…Also, regardless if you think that music is prohibited or not in Islam, it doesn’t justify the right to take a sacred book of a whole people and use and abuse it. The Quran is sacred and I if Busta knew the least bit about Islam he would know that you never play the Quran with music. It’s like taking the Torah and saying “Hey I make Israeli money whoo!!” I bet alot of people would be angry about that. Unfortunately, the song has already been put out and regardless of whether or not Busta and his friends make a formal apology, it doesn’t change the fact that its been leaked and people are going to listen to it, so the only thing you can do is forgive and forget.
February 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
The devout muslims should not be compared to undevout muslims. If this is the case then devout christians should be compared to undevout christians and same with other religions i.e hinduism and judaism etc. Busta rhymes to be a muslim or not clearly shows his lack of understanding of the faith i.e music is haram in islam. If Busta rhymes wants to rap about Islam then he should just simply cut the music and rap according to the teachings of islam and reality without bad language and mo foin anyone to get a message out there. OK, he might not make his usual millions but he will deffinately be heard from the millions and millions of muslims accross the world. I have NOT heard this track and to be honest I don’t want to. No action will be taken against any type of incident like this but if they made a track on the Talmud and Jews they would deffinately face charges and be behind bars. This, in ways shows morality of Islam that it ai’nt a barbaric religion and still gives people like Busta a chance to rethink, apologise and make things right.
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 pm
lool.. ive read most comments and stuff and i have to admit i was a bit shocked and stuff (yeeep.. im muslim myself!) but like.. i can see how its offensive.. but you have to admit… its just such a sik beat! like… it is rude and it does take the piss.. but like.. dear god (excuse the pun) its just a song.. like.. hmmm.. i dna… the song isnt about ripping the piss outta muslims even though it sounds like it.. but its about the “sik” life of rappers.. i dna.. what do you guys think?
March 1st, 2009 at 5:19 am
Why are the Muslims up in arms about this. They need to understand that western culture is different from middle eastern culture. Religious dogma tends to take a backseat (but not always.) Busta realizes this and we can see this in his song. He’s not even defaming Allah. I know that the muslims are super-sensetive about their religion, but come on, if some christian in my school was being an evangelical (which annoys me deeply) I could go up and rip them a new asshole by destroying their statements of “peace” and such without any real consequence. I wouldn’t get into trouble, but it may start a fight between me and said evangelical. If I were to do the same to a muslim who was attempting to “glorify Allah” then I would probably be expelled from my school. We need fair treatment of all religion, and atheism for that matter too (not that atheism is a religion, but favoring any relgion or even to favor religion over atheism infringes on an atheist’s right from religion.)
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 am
I agree, it’s a product of western culture. And also, let God make the judgement. God wills it. All is God’s will.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Yes, its from the west but hear this, the west clashes with the east, because its theists from the west vs ORTHODOX theists from the east. You gotta think of their point of view too. There is too much to say and there is not enough time.
@Andy, a real muslim would never take it to violence, however in shariah run states u can be executed for openly attacking islam, im not sure if this will be as serious in the first place. The muslims that are going bezerk are extremists, and extremism is never good. and about u probably being expelled from school for telling a “glorifier” to stfu, i would sue your headmaster for discrimination,i as a devout muslim myself would not allow this. And all of this hype that muslims are terrorists is bullshit, theres the real truth out there, and if u look it on the internet you’ll find it.
May Peace and Safety be with you all.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
akon in3l bri inayt amin
March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 am
The thing is DJs are meant to LISTEN to what they play. Obviously the guy was too stupid to do that.
March 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
well lets just vote , who think it offense’s and who don’t
March 18th, 2009 at 8:02 am
yes this is not good he is didrespecting QURAN as it is our holy book at its not a joke an he is takin it an ordinary thing and u know he was reciting QUARAN in song and it is also disrespect of QUARAN
March 19th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
hey people, pleez stop being so damn touchy! i am muslim & egyptian myself n i think that the song isnt offensive, we use quranic verses in our songs n even if its wrong to do that, its not our job to judge it.also extreemists r the cause of other people hatin us, bcuz they dont act rationaly n they dont even understand islam, so they curse n attack n even kill whoever they think they should. islam is based on peace guys, n those terrorists dont represent us, they bring us shame. PEACE OUT
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
im muslim and egyptian and i think its not offensive too but we didnt use quranic verses in our songs before , did we?
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 am
if you are a muslim and you think its not offensive then you are dumb and ignorant , how stupid can you be not to think that ??
well i see ur from egypt so that explains it cock suckerrrrrrrr
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 am
Busta Rhyme looks like a five-percenter (see Wikipedia.org). They claim to be Muslims but are faaaaaaaar away from Islam. He even looks like a Freemason. This song is extreeeeemelyyy offensive, but it had to happen. It’s one of the signs of qayamah, according to a hadith.
March 27th, 2009 at 10:45 am
@Tariq: Busta Bitch ain’t a muslim, and even if he is, he doesn’t deserve to be called that, okay? So don’t start defending him by saying that he’s a MUSLIM and he didn’t mean to offend anyone by his song!
And what really surprises me are people like you, who think that using verses of the Qur’an in a song is a normal thing, and there’s nothing offensive about it. Actually nothing differentiates you from poeple like Busta Bitch and Lil Winny Bitch and all those fuckers! It doesn’t require anything to realise that the song is offensive, for using the verses of Qur’an! Even non muslims realised that, for fuck sake!
March 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
FUCK ALL WHO TALK ABOUT “ISLAM” IN WRONG WAY
FUCK THIS SONG….!!:@:@
March 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
what most people don’t understand is, that it’s offensive to those muslims who actually care. they aren’t using the quran’s verses in a respectful manner, yeah zain bikha, yusuf islam, sami yusuf also sing, but atleast they say these things in a honorable and most beautiful way taht muslims enjoy and are very pleased with. i like listening to hip hop and stuff to, but these two don’t mix if they’re going to do it with such disgrace. it’s sad and very offending, to be honest, as a fellow muslim, i am pissed off.
March 31st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
he wasn’t dropped from interscope he left interscope
March 31st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
oh and what happened to fucking freedom of speech?
stop wining and bitching and just shut up
if you don’t like the song don’t listen to it
and just fuck off
the song itself isn’t all that but it’s not a big deal
it’s just a fucking song ok
it isn’t meant to be offensive but you assholes directly make it into something offensive that’s just stupid
leave it alone, let go, it’s not that big a deal
he’s not the fucking US President making fun of islam he’s a rapper who just apparently made a silly mistake by not thinking of all of those idiots out there that can’t take anything and keep wining and bitching as soon as someone mentions their religion
there are loads of people out there making fun of christians, jews, etc. why not go and complain about that oh no it’s only your own religion that matters
I have nothing against you religion so don’t think I’m being an asshole towards muslims in general it’s that YOU (all muslims that complain about this and keep saying it’s offensive) are making it a MUCH bigger problem than it is
he’s not even saying anything bad about islam, he’s not making fun of muslims or anything - he just used a line of the Quran (considering he’s a muslim himself) (he might not obey all the rules of islam, but he believes in it) (so maybe he’s not a good muslim I can’t judge that I guess, but he considers himself to be a muslim so that’s why he would not go out and offend or ridicule his own religion)
the Quran might be holy to you, but he’s not doing anything horrible by just saying a line from it. I mean come on don’t be so stupid. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, other religions get made fun of as well. I’m sure there are jews or christians or whatever that are offended by it. that’s true. and I don’t expect none of you muslims to be offend by someone who makes fun of your religion. but THIS is not a big deal (like I keep fucking saying) IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL. and a lot of you think it is but you’re all just fucking exaggerating it - BBIIGG TTIIMMEE.
just shut up and move on, I’m sure this song will be forgotten in not so long.
assholes.
March 31st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
“”"This song is better than the Quran so all is well. Also: dont like it, dont listen.”"”
lol had to laugh
sorry
you people are soo sad
fucking idiots
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
this is a highly offensive song. i’m not a muslim but i’ve been living in the middle east for about three months now. the lyrics are rediculously direspectful of the arab culture, and if he has ever stepped foot into the ME he should know that.
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Seriously, everyone just shut up. Allah knows best.
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
ok ok ok… let’s put it this way..
everything at the end of the day.. will be decided by Allah..
who the hell are we to judge other people… everyone will have to answer to Allah.. not us..
so let’s just quit while we’re ahead ok?
April 7th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
I HATE THIS SONG. RECITATION OF THE QURAN SHOULDNT BE READ IN MUSIC AND SWEARING. YOU IDIOT PPL WE ALL NO THAT WE BELIEVE IN A RELIGION. WE THINK ITS THE BEST. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF WE CREATED A SONG RAPPING THE BIBLE AND SAYING DROP BOMBS ON JERUSALEM AND EAT CHRISTMAS AND BOMB ON EASTER. JEEZ U DON’T LIKE IT NOR DO WE. SO YOU OFFEND US YOU DAMN PPL. DON’T SAY NIGGERS TO US AND STUFF. JEEZ
April 17th, 2009 at 8:05 am
The things they said, if they were translated in english it’s nothing bad being said
April 27th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Muslims are so hypocritical. They can use “allah” in their music and when someone else uses it, it becomes “haram”. bullfuckingshit.
i hope busta rhymes makes more shit like this cause its awesome. all major artists are in the video.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:07 am
I think the main problem with this track isn’t the fact that it uses the name of Allah per se, but it is the context of which it is used. Many artists DO use Allah in their music, but you must look at the context. The fact that these artists have placed lines from the Quran as nothing more than a gimmick is the most insulting thing of this track. The Quran’s lines are not to be used in a club banger. I have personally boycotted this song and refuse to listen to it, and I am very disappointed in all of the artists. In a turbulent time such as this, releasing a song with such connotations is extremely inappropriate. As for Jyeah’s opinion that “this song is better than the Quran,” I don’t even understand why this person even bothered to post. Perhaps he or she enjoys the fact that many Muslims are insulted by this song, and thinks it would be funny to push it to the next level. But I digress. Finally, while it is true that Allah will be the one to have the ultimate response, it is our duty to protect our religion, and thus I believe we should try to limit this kind of gimmick from being used in art so that it does not spread and cause any more hostility.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
b4 i start bisimillah alrahman alrahim.
ayO this is a gr8 song lads….but yea it kinda bad,and so are most of the arab/muslim country leaders and arab singers …so dont be hating on(akon,busta,swiss and whoever) wen ur leaders are worse.and and and and also….you all claim to be good muslims and wat not…how come u listning to music in the 1st place isnt music harm? ooo hypocrites?lol
pCe n Luv
April 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Music isnt “haram” as it has not been declared haram within the Holy Quran…the content of a song is what makes it haram or halal!
May 12th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
FUCK TO THESE NIGERS
AND ALL WHO HATE THE ISLAM
May 12th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Lol’s, It’s only a song with a few remixes, if people would just catch onto theirselves and enjoy music for what it is - entertainment!
May 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 am
this is an ignorant argument … to my fellow muslims, stick to ulema
May 24th, 2009 at 7:54 am
This is so stupid.
Holy Books are not to be quoted in slutty songs.
These bugs know the Qur’an is the Holiest thing Muslims have, & then they include it in a song along some sluts saying that they are Arabs,
while also drinking & gambling.Uneducated racists.
The random letters they show at the beginning have nothing to do with Arabic language. They also say “gambling with Arafat” or such a shit, well, forget about Arafat’s life, but he’s dead now. Can’t they respect the dead?! I can’t believe this shitty song even exists… Couldn’t they find another name?
For you saying songs are haram & Allah’s name is included in Arabic songs, songs aren’t all haram, it depends on the song.
Some songs are Islamic, They only talk about Allah, Muhammad & believing. No slutty words. No loud music. So don’t mix stuff.
Offending people never was good in ordinary conversations. HTF can they offend a 2 nations on a World-Wide Broadcast song?
I hope this will never happen again. I hope that all the racists who were in this well get what they deserve & I KNOW they will.
It’s all because of, as some said, the Arab & Muslim leaders…
I hope they will wake up soon. ’cause it’s getting ridiculous.
I still can’t believe that some morons are offending Islam & Arabs & broadcasting it.
Damn it hurts.
May 30th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I’m Muslim and the song doesn’t offend me. Although I do think the verses from the Qu’ran was going a little too far.
It could have been much worse. I like the song, it’s catchy, but some parts are a little x___x.
June 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
I am a Sunni Muslim from Egypt too, and I sing most of the time Islamic songs -without recitation from the Holy Qur’an-, and I want to tell Mrs. Danna, as Muslim-to-Muslim, that no rude song like that is catchy. He was not just going too far, he passed the red line -As we say in Egypt-. And may Allah forgive the listeners of this song, and crush the vocal cords of this bastard, he and the other jinxes who worked on the song.
June 18th, 2009 at 4:57 am
fuck all u indian pricks, the only thing u motherfukrs churn out is kama sutra and turbans
June 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am
hey K.Khan,
stop whining, they are just words, k? what harm can they do with words? none, everyone is just being a little bitch, seriously calm the hell down people don’t get offended when they swear in it and everything so stop crying like a little girl all you. shit…
June 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
OMG people are still making a fuss over this song, it was released back in november! you are all pathetic its just a song im a muslim and i dont find it offensive. Busta rhymes even said “Salute to all muslims” like Ali said they are only words!!!! its just a song.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
Its just a song, its not offensive in any way at all. This is one of the best songs ever, I dont know why you have a problem with it. Busta Rymes is a genius for thinking of an incredble song like this. Just shutup about it.!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 am
Dont judge others. I love the lyrics, not that offensive, but I beg all the Muslims if it hurts’em. I can listen to this song 10times a day….its cool.!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:34 am
I am a Muslim and I found this song very very offensive. This is my opinion and I expect all of you to respect my opinion as I respect yours. But what makes me wonder is that there are posts here to people who are Muslims and they said it’s just a song,funny, facetious, catchy, and only words. I say to those Muslims if they really believe that the Qur’an is the revelation of Allah, does the following Ayah included in the “revelation of Allah that you believe in” :
??????? ???????????? ???????????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ?????????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??????? ???????????????
??? ????????????? ???? ????????? ?????? ???????????? ??? ??????? ??? ????????? ???????? ????????? ????????? ??????????? ???????? ???????????
Translation :
If thou dost question them, they declare (with emphasis): we were only talking idly and in play. Say: was it at God, and his signs, and his Apostle, that ye were mocking?
Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected faith after ye had accepted it. if we pardon some of you, we will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin.
End of translation.
And as for H.Bomb, the youtube link you provided it was wonderful and well recitation, but dose what in “Arab Money” even near that? I mean do you have the right to say songs under Hip Hop theme and with dirty words is OK in Islam based on the fact that other Muslims may have exaggerated about recitation or they go to parties? Or is the Ayah provided above also “INVENTED” by the Mula?
I hope I didn’t hurt anyone’s feelings and again this is my personal opinion about the matter at hand, take it or leave it’s up to you. I am in no position to judge others Islam it’s between you and Allah, this is why it’s called faith. It is unfair to judge, bomb, put under economical blockade, or kill other people based on the action of few.
August 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
aww well thats not cool… both links are broken now. haha both videos were removed
September 1st, 2009 at 6:41 am
I’ve read ALOT of comments that were (in my opinion) Bogus. First of all if you are Muslim and offended I’m sorry I’m sure it wasn’t meant that way, on top of that I’d be suprised if Busta Rhymes even wrote this song. Second if we each looked at what we do in our own life half as much as we look at and judge others we might could find some of these character defects within ourselves and be able to change them. I say practice what you preach. And get a life!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
^^^^^^^ Well said ArkansasHick it’s about time they stopped judging and making a fuss over inappropriate things!
September 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
As a muslim myself I do not find this song offensive at all. If anything I like the fact that some of the big names in Hip Hop are taking a liking into our finances.
Salom Alaykom!
September 18th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
And if I’m not mistaken, Busta Rhymes, Swizz Beats and Akon are all Muslims
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 am
Replace “Arab” with “Your” in the chorus, and tell me if u still don’t find it offensive..
Man i’m not even a Muslim and i feel offended so
September 30th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
FIRST FOR ALL YOU COCK MUNCHIN BATSARDS WHO SAYIN BUSTA IS MUSLIM, HES NOT!!!! HES A “FIVE PERCENTER”, A FOLLOWER OF THE “NATION OF GODS AND EARTH MOVEMENT”. SO ALL YALL CAN LICK HIS ASS!!!
AND FUCK BUSTA!!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
FIRST FOR ALL, ALL YOU COCK-MUNCHIN BATSARDS WHO SAYIN BUSTA IS MUSLIM, HES NOT!!!! HES A FIVE PERCENTER, A FOLLOWER OF THE NATION OF GODS AND EARTH MOVEMENT. SO ALL YALL CAN LICK HIS ASS!!!
AND FUCK BUSTA!!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
FIRST FOR ALL, ALL YOU COCK-MUNCHIN BATSARDS WHO SAYIN BUSTA IS MUSLIM, HES NOT!!!! HES A FIVE PERCENTER, A FOLLOWER OF THE NATION OF GODS AND EARTH MOVEMENT. SO ALL YALL CAN LICK HIS ASS!!!
AND FUCK BUSTA!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pm
i dont know y all u lot r makin such a big deal i mean look at the rapper all tatooed up nd shit all nd then if ur talkin about comparing think of all the otherr singerz film stars claiming 2 b muslimm lets take the king of bollywood S.R.K he claims 2 b muslim but when he is kissing nd sleeping wit girls is dat wat u call being a tru muslimm.. get a lyf u wastez
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 am
i think the busta ryhmes version is horrible. u should listen to the arab money song by noose. so much better
October 28th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Since WHEN is music forbidden by Islam?
Non-offensive music. Does this mean that it is against my religion to listen to any kind of music, including the beatles?
and i guess ginans and qasidas aren’t music, but they are in essence! since when is music (lets say its non-offensive) haram?
October 31st, 2009 at 12:33 am
This website states Busta is a Muslim. http://whisperofpeace.yolasite.com Im not 100% sure. Allah knows.
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA
LOL
yes
allah does know
and is music in general forbidden in islam
or is it just putting the Holy Qu’ran to music haraam?
November 4th, 2009 at 10:38 am
yall just is bitchin over nuttin
muslim sluslim
its not even a real religion
+
yall talk about peace & everything(in ur book i think)
but why is there so much hate here then
just leave a nigga tryin to make his money sheesh!
if u dont like the song then dont listen!
its not like hes putting the song in yo face
thats why its beter to be christian we dont hate like that
word!
November 4th, 2009 at 11:36 am
“Its not even a real religion” !!!! I’m sorry but do you even live on Earth or are you from Mars? Saying such thing is exactly like saying that Africa does not exist. As for “thats why its beter to be christian” did you know that the crusades started around 1095 and ended around 1600, which is about 505 year? Now explain how that is not hatred? Also let us not forget the 1st & 2nd WW, Vietnam, Cuba, the cold war, Afghanistan, Iraq, & Gaza. Are we supposed to believe that Iraq, Afghanistan & Gaza pose a global threat. They don’t even have decent airports. Please list at least 2 Islamic countries were racial separation took place in airports, universities & buses. Another optional thing for you “Truth”: Give me one single Islamic country that produces & sells weapons, I don’t recall a president assassination for stopping weapons business except in USA!!!!!!
Read this:
http://www.chilit.org/Papers%20by%20author/Rutherford%20–%20Crime.htm
November 15th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
This song is dope
November 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Muslim people have every right to be upset about it. How would people raised in the Christian or Catholic faith feel if Busta made a song with words from the book of Genesis and Matthew from the Bible and then start talking about sex and money in it. Im sure they would be outraged about that..
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
Islamic songs are meant to praise god and make us think about god not sex, money and concubines.
Music is not haraam in Islam. Only some types of music is haraam.
Islamic music & songs are those tha bring you closer to god and good.
One can listen to classical instrumental in islam as long as it does not cause him/her to commit a sin or to think about sinful acts.
Songs that influence you to commit sins are haraam but songs like classica instrumental, islamic songs and some other songs sung by other artists are allowed in Islam. Just wanted to clarify about music in Islam.
Now, about this song it uses the verses from the holy quran and talks about things which are haraam like concubines & gambling. This is unacceptable because you are keeping the word of god together with sinful acts. The verses of the quran are holy and they should be repected. Now, I totally disagree with riots, protests and terrorists like bin laden. That is not the approach taught to us (muslims) by the prophet. Busta made a mistake and we find it offensive so we talk about it. We dont have to fight or cause riots. We have to be wise people and settle it down through discussion which is what i am doing now. The original song has no problems in it since it does not contain any arabic word. The original song is a normal hip hop song without any quranic verse in it and I do not have any problem with it.
To all those of you who disagree feel free to comment but think before you write. If it was speaking about jesus i am 100% sure that the christians would be upset and they will also do the same thing and if it was about david the jews wouldnt like it and if it was about buddha the buddhists wouldnt like it. It is better to make songs or speeches or anything without insulting anybody’s faith.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you can use it any way you want to use it. Getting freedom doesn’t mean you have to abuse it instead freedom comes with responsibility.
thanks
Shahid
December 5th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Truth, your comment was not only incorrect, but no offense radical. If you cant even have honor or the courage to respect others, you yourself is but trash, and you are shaming your own religion as well.
I agree with shahid, this is disrespectful against muslims around the world, and should not be tolerated. as a man once said, your freedom stops when it goes into other peoples territory. Feel free to express your views but keep this in mind.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
err.. to “whatever”…. not befriending muslims… doesnt make u “different” or make you sound “cool”…
just a racist…
now who’s “living in the past”